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[dillnuts mcbag]

Dear Santa,
This is what I would like for Christmas.

1. I would like Revver to pay me the almost 700 dollars it owes me.

2. I would like Revver to pay all the other good little boys and girls the money they are owed.

3. I would like the the CEO of Revver, Mr. Joe Monkey Balls to issue an apology to all of us for the months of payment delays and robbery that has sadly become the norm here at Revver.

4. I would like Peace on Earth.

I know 1-3 are a tall order, so if you go the easy route and just give me #4 then I totally understand.

Thanks Santa!
Dillnuts.

[lore.ska]

SING IT LOUD:

Jingle bells,
payments fails
"Wait another week"
Anytime you tell me so
you fu**ing break my dick

Jingle bells
Revver's lame
Every week's the same
It's just like having up there
a whole big Christmas tree!

(Wow I can write songs in english too!)

[JPPI]

I understand your complaints, but you have to admit one thing -- Revver has been highly tolerant of criticisms and complaints posted on their forums. You don't have to look too far to find sites that would simply delete such negative comments, and/or ban people posting them. This is one of the things I've always liked about Revver -- they treat people decently and fairly.

And yeah, I know what you're going to say -- delaying payments and giving people a bad feeling about whether they'll ever get paid is not an example of treating people decently and fairly. No arguments there, but this is a rare exception and, I believe, not of their choosing.

Just my two cents... And hopefully, by Christmas, the payment situation will be behind us, so my own "wish list" for Revver would be focused on getting higher-paying advertisers...
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[xale07]

I agree with JPPI. Revver have always been fair and transparent.
They communicate well and often answer in the forum.
They are doing a great job.
We should be patient and give them some time.

[lore.ska]

I'm not saying Revver is being a thief or something like that. It's just a little "weird" that every week they say "whoops, payments delayed".

I think there's something bigger than we can imagine behind this situation, and that makes me be a little concerned about it.

[dillnuts mcbag]

[JPPI]

[Andrew]

Revver is actually owned by Live Universe, correct? In August Live Universe suddenly acquired Peerflix Media. Publishers for Peerflix still have not received payments that were due August 15th. Peerflix publishers were told "it will just be a delay" for weeks, now months. Those publishers continued running banners, and so they continued to earn income for Peerflix (and its parent, Live Universe), but still have not been paid.

The reason Peerflix cannot pay publishers is apparently related to not receiving the funds from Live Universe.

Also, The Movie Blog is owned by Peerflix. At the end of September that site was offline for a few days. One of the people who contribute to The Movie Blog posted an entry on his blog that the down time was apparently due to the hosting bill not being paid.

I am not certain your problems are directly with Revver. Browsing Live Universe's past on the web, you will turn up quite a few stories that follow the trend I just laid it. Live Universe buys struggling companies and then content creators or publishers for those acquired companies report that they are not being paid. In some of the cases it appears that they were never paid and eventually wrote off the losses.

So, Live Universe has had enough money to continually buy companies, but it is not paying the content creators of companies that it purchased prior.

And, full disclosure: I am a website owner who is owed monies via the Peerflix issue. Hence my interest in what is going on, and Live Universe's actions.

[MovieguyTed]

Andrew,

You are correct that LiveUniverse owns Revver. They acquired it early this year.

Interesting (and rather disturbing) information you provide. Regardless of the exact circumstances causing Revver's current payments problem, I do think the ultimate responsibility for fixing the situation does lie with LiveUniverse since they own Revver. As the saying goes "the buck stops here". (Although that could be seen as a rather painful pun under the present circumstances).
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[dillnuts mcbag]

JPPI - I think you are living in the past. Revver is no longer an independent company and unless I am quite mistaken you won't be paying any bills with revver generated money in the future. Yes Revver was at one time a great resource - but this is no longer the case.
These are terrible business practices - revver / live uni are continuing to make money from our content. You have to be able to trust your business partners - and revver / live universe have demonstrated now that they are completely unworthy of anyone's trust.
Ask yourself this - why don't they post on the main page where everyone can see it that they are not paying their content producers and partners? Instead it looks like business as usual - our content is earning money that they are keeping. Putting up a notice that the rev share program will be temporarily suspended until this mess is sorted out would be in my view the honest and transparent thing to do. Continuing to earn from our videos while not paying us and not communicating with us from the executive management level is very shady.
Revver is no longer the revver of the past. That is over.

[comicbookbinto]

Sounds like Andrew's saying the same thing I've been saying. So, has anyone tried contacting LiveUniverse or not. I don't really have time to do anything like that until about next week. They also don't owe me any money.

Anybody want to stand up and take a shot at it?

[Andrew]

The only person responding to me has been my accounting contact with Peerflix. She can only say what your Revver admin has been telling you: that there is a problem and the payments are delayed.

I sent Live Universe a letter at the beginning of this month requesting payment. Copies were sent to both of their official email addresses. No response.

My intent is to file a claim in the local court (Delaware, my place of business) on 21 October. Unfortunately, I have played this game before, including during the dotcom crash. I have been running a website for more than ten years.

[dillnuts mcbag]

someone needs to organize a bunch of us together and go after these guys.

[JPPI]

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